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sc_shankar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Dear Ravi,

Not sure, if these statements are originated from Mr. Chandramouli or he just read what ever he heard (Mandabathil yaaravathu ezhuthi kuduthiruppargal).

People's expectation, if a train is serving a small portion, it is not for that state, for example, if TVC-SBC Premium service has to go via CBE, to benefit more areas under TN,

rather if it just stops at ED and skips, CBE, TUP, SA, JTJ, then it will be yet another pass-thru train. Just stopping in one station does not mean, the train is for the respective state.

This is there in all the states, not just in TN alone. The recent Bidar-YPR Express train, people prefers to re-route with-in KA, to benefit KA, as the current route mostly serves the neighboring state.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:22 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

hi this train rerouted via main line and katpadi already madurai kachgeda train runs vis salem katapadi why all train run that route,even main lines has bigger citties
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

mani1103 wrote:
Jegan_TS wrote:
mani1103 wrote:


SR will use this same rake for NCJ - KCG new train following the same day & same timings.


Dear Mani,

I would prefer not to make a such statements made as above, let us not make a negative statements like Lazy SR, yes it is very clear that proposal was made only based on Rake availability and SR officers worked in their limits to give this first ever Hyderabad connection below Madurai.
My assumption is that train does not take Tiruchirapalli route


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But some thing should be addressed here. That you should be accepted.

Being a special train timings are given liberal, but when comes to regular train , the timings should be minimized as much as possible. When you see the previous history of any train which comes special into regular the timings are not changed.

Assume NCJ - MS is 14 hrs journey & MS - KCG is 15 hrs journey total 29 hrs , but NCJ - KCG has 30 hrs. operating via shortest route taking 30 hrs , is this huge timings is ok for you.


Could you please let me know which train if i take from NCJ to MS and from MS to KCG , i can complete my Journey in 29 hours ?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:31 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Jegan_TS wrote:
mani1103 wrote:
Jegan_TS wrote:
mani1103 wrote:


SR will use this same rake for NCJ - KCG new train following the same day & same timings.


Dear Mani,

I would prefer not to make a such statements made as above, let us not make a negative statements like Lazy SR, yes it is very clear that proposal was made only based on Rake availability and SR officers worked in their limits to give this first ever Hyderabad connection below Madurai.
My assumption is that train does not take Tiruchirapalli route


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But some thing should be addressed here. That you should be accepted.

Being a special train timings are given liberal, but when comes to regular train , the timings should be minimized as much as possible. When you see the previous history of any train which comes special into regular the timings are not changed.

Assume NCJ - MS is 14 hrs journey & MS - KCG is 15 hrs journey total 29 hrs , but NCJ - KCG has 30 hrs. operating via shortest route taking 30 hrs , is this huge timings is ok for you.


Could you please let me know which train if i take from NCJ to MS and from MS to KCG , i can complete my Journey in 29 hours ?


Hi Jegan sir,



NCJ - MS

16724 - 14 hr 30 mins

MS - KCG

17651 - 15 hrs

Total

NCJ - MS + MS - KCG

14 . 30 + 15 = 29 . 30 hrs

or or or or

NCJ - MS SF

12634 - 13 hr 10 mins

MAS - HYB SF

12603 - 13 hrs

Total

NCJ - MS + MAS - HYB

13:10 + 13 = 26 hrs 10 mins




earlier our special

06308 NCJ - KCG = 30 hrs ( direct train )
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:41 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

This is different understanding, you are only talking about the duration you require to reach NCJ -> MS/MAS-> HYB as 29 Hours, this not possible since you have to waste your major part of the day in MS to take KCG/HYB train once you reach MS, in this case your overall travel time would around 37 hours, if it is MAS then it would be more , how come you compare NCJ - KCG weekly ( 30 hours) with your above connections ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:37 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

+1
if you have the connecting train at chennai, you atleast need to have 2 hours buffer time between the two trains. because, most of the time, the trains reach MS atlest 30 minutes late. some times hours due to cracks in rail or line block. so it is always to take direct train even it takes equal time of two individual trains. here, you are going to spend more if you change other train.
but if the train becomes super fast or the timings is trimmed to reduce atleast couple of hours, then this will be very much liked by most section of people.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:21 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:01 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Hi Mani,
mani1103 wrote:

Hi Jegan sir,



NCJ - MS

16724 - 14 hr 30 mins

MS - KCG

17651 - 15 hrs

Total

NCJ - MS + MS - KCG

14 . 30 + 15 = 29 . 30 hrs

or or or or

NCJ - MS SF

12634 - 13 hr 10 mins

MAS - HYB SF

12603 - 13 hrs

Total

NCJ - MS + MAS - HYB

13:10 + 13 = 26 hrs 10 mins




earlier our special

06308 NCJ - KCG = 30 hrs ( direct train )

First of all why are you comparing the route via Chennai for NCJ - KCG Exp???

NCJ - KCG Exp is going to run via short route MDU, DG, KRR, NMKL, SA, TPTY, HX..

So you can compare with the same route of other trains and via chennai is circuitous route and also buffer timing around 2 hours required if via chennai..

This NCJ - KCG Exp will take 25 Hrs 15 Mins only via MDU, NMKL, SA, TPTY, HX as NSF Exp,

NCJ - MDU = 4.5 Hrs
MDU - SA = 4 Hrs
SA - TPTY = 5 Hrs
TPTY - KCG = 11 Hrs 45 Mins
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Total Hrs = 25 Hrs 15 Mins
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I would like NCJ - KCG Exp as to operate as per below schedule,

NCJ - 10.30
MDU - 15.05
SA - 19.05 (In between Rapti Group and Sabari)
TPTY -00.05
RX - 03.00
GY - 05.40
KCG - 11.50 (Including Buffer)

Return direction till TPTY as same special train schedule after that as below,
KCG - 16.20
GY - 22.30
HX - 01.17
TPTY - 04.10
KPD - 06.10 (KPD - SA MEMU Slightly needs to change)
SA - 09.10
MDU - 13.10
TEN - 15.55
NCJ -18.30 (Including Buffer)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Jegan_TS wrote:
This is different understanding, you are only talking about the duration you require to reach NCJ -> MS/MAS-> HYB as 29 Hours, this not possible since you have to waste your major part of the day in MS to take KCG/HYB train once you reach MS, in this case your overall travel time would around 37 hours, if it is MAS then it would be more , how come you compare NCJ - KCG weekly ( 30 hours) with your above connections ?


From Hyderabad you can start by Chennai exp by 5pm in the evening and catch Guruvayur express in Chennai next day which will reach NCJ by atleast 9 pm resulting in 28 hours journey. In the return it is not possible.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

mahavmsrt wrote:
Hi Mani,
mani1103 wrote:

Hi Jegan sir,



NCJ - MS

16724 - 14 hr 30 mins

MS - KCG

17651 - 15 hrs

Total

NCJ - MS + MS - KCG

14 . 30 + 15 = 29 . 30 hrs

or or or or

NCJ - MS SF

12634 - 13 hr 10 mins

MAS - HYB SF

12603 - 13 hrs

Total

NCJ - MS + MAS - HYB

13:10 + 13 = 26 hrs 10 mins




earlier our special

06308 NCJ - KCG = 30 hrs ( direct train )

First of all why are you comparing the route via Chennai for NCJ - KCG Exp???

NCJ - KCG Exp is going to run via short route MDU, DG, KRR, NMKL, SA, TPTY, HX..

So you can compare with the same route of other trains and via chennai is circuitous route and also buffer timing around 2 hours required if via chennai..

This NCJ - KCG Exp will take 25 Hrs 15 Mins only via MDU, NMKL, SA, TPTY, HX as NSF Exp,

NCJ - MDU = 4.5 Hrs
MDU - SA = 4 Hrs
SA - TPTY = 5 Hrs
TPTY - KCG = 11 Hrs 45 Mins
-----------------------------------
Total Hrs = 25 Hrs 15 Mins
-----------------------------------

I would like NCJ - KCG Exp as to operate as per below schedule,

NCJ - 10.30
MDU - 15.05
SA - 19.05 (In between Rapti Group and Sabari)
TPTY -00.05
RX - 03.00
GY - 05.40
KCG - 11.50 (Including Buffer)

Return direction till TPTY as same special train schedule after that as below,
KCG - 16.20
GY - 22.30
HX - 01.17
TPTY - 04.10
KPD - 06.10 (KPD - SA MEMU Slightly needs to change)
SA - 09.10
MDU - 13.10
TEN - 15.55
NCJ -18.30 (Including Buffer)


Hi Mahendran,

If NCJ - KCG is taking 25 hrs & 1 5mins I feel very happy than every body.

If the reaching time at KCG before 7 am I will get double happy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

The recently inagurated NCJ-SBC and weekly 4 days NCJ-Mumbai covering NCJ-SA stretch in 10.20 Hrs thus taking the same for this also

and for SA-KCG viaTPTYpresently 2trains running:

RMM Okha taking 17.38 Hrs and
Sabari taking 18 Hrs and

Hence here we can take 18 Hours

Totalling 10 + 18 = 28 hours is the maximum if it is crossing SA during night like that of NCJ-SBC and if it is day or early night i.e. before 10 PM then the timing can be reduced by 1-2 Hours thus 26-27 Hrs running is possible. Surely not required 29-30 Hours.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Hi Kannan,
paakannan wrote:
The recently inagurated NCJ-SBC and weekly 4 days NCJ-Mumbai covering NCJ-SA stretch in 10.20 Hrs thus taking the same for this also

and for SA-KCG viaTPTYpresently 2trains running:

RMM Okha taking 17.38 Hrs and
Sabari taking 18 Hrs and

Hence here we can take 18 Hours

Totalling 10 + 18 = 28 hours is the maximum if it is crossing SA during night like that of NCJ-SBC and if it is day or early night i.e. before 10 PM then the timing can be reduced by 1-2 Hours thus 26-27 Hrs running is possible. Surely not required 29-30 Hours.

NCJ - CSTM 4 Days Exp is going via ED and 10.20 including 20 min LR..

Recently introduced NCJ - SBC Exp is having huge buffer time between MDU to SA and NCJ - MS weekly is overtaking in between MDU - DG..

NCJ - SBC Daily Exp is taking around 6 hours from MDU to SA..tell me 6 hours required from MDU to SA via NMKL????

But the same SBC-NCJ Exp return direction, it is taking just 4.15 from SA to MDU and one more important point is NCJ - SBC Exp is the highest speed from KRR to MDU..ie just 2.05 hours from KRR to MDU..

So take same hours of SBC - NCJ Exp from SA to MDU and take same hours of NCJ - SBC Exp from NCJ to MDU..

NCJ - MDU = 4.5 Hrs
MDU - SA = 4.15 Hrs

So at the max 8.15 enough in between NCJ to SA..
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dineshpkm wrote:
Jegan_TS wrote:
This is different understanding, you are only talking about the duration you require to reach NCJ -> MS/MAS-> HYB as 29 Hours, this not possible since you have to waste your major part of the day in MS to take KCG/HYB train once you reach MS, in this case your overall travel time would around 37 hours, if it is MAS then it would be more , how come you compare NCJ - KCG weekly ( 30 hours) with your above connections ?


From Hyderabad you can start by Chennai exp by 5pm in the evening and catch Guruvayur express in Chennai next day which will reach NCJ by atleast 9 pm resulting in 28 hours journey. In the return it is not possible.


Dinesh,one direction taking 12604 from HYB ,reach Chennai Central - take auto/taxi to Egmore and board 16127 GUV exp for NCJ , it is considered to be better connection as of now
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Jegan_TS wrote:
dineshpkm wrote:
Jegan_TS wrote:
This is different understanding, you are only talking about the duration you require to reach NCJ -> MS/MAS-> HYB as 29 Hours, this not possible since you have to waste your major part of the day in MS to take KCG/HYB train once you reach MS, in this case your overall travel time would around 37 hours, if it is MAS then it would be more , how come you compare NCJ - KCG weekly ( 30 hours) with your above connections ?


From Hyderabad you can start by Chennai exp by 5pm in the evening and catch Guruvayur express in Chennai next day which will reach NCJ by atleast 9 pm resulting in 28 hours journey. In the return it is not possible.


Dinesh,one direction taking 12604 from HYB ,reach Chennai Central - take auto/taxi to Egmore and board 16127 GUV exp for NCJ , it is considered to be better connection as of now


Can u guess the stoppages for NCJ - KCG Weekly Exp..
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RajkumarSubramani wrote:
Jegan_TS wrote:
dineshpkm wrote:
Jegan_TS wrote:
This is different understanding, you are only talking about the duration you require to reach NCJ -> MS/MAS-> HYB as 29 Hours, this not possible since you have to waste your major part of the day in MS to take KCG/HYB train once you reach MS, in this case your overall travel time would around 37 hours, if it is MAS then it would be more , how come you compare NCJ - KCG weekly ( 30 hours) with your above connections ?


From Hyderabad you can start by Chennai exp by 5pm in the evening and catch Guruvayur express in Chennai next day which will reach NCJ by atleast 9 pm resulting in 28 hours journey. In the return it is not possible.


Dinesh,one direction taking 12604 from HYB ,reach Chennai Central - take auto/taxi to Egmore and board 16127 GUV exp for NCJ , it is considered to be better connection as of now


Can u guess the stoppages for NCJ - KCG Weekly Exp..


These may be the stoppings


Valliyur, Tirunelveli, Vanchi Maniyachchi, Kovilpatti, Sattur, Virudhunagar, Madurai, Kodaikanal Road, Dindigul, Karur, Namakkal, Rasipuram, Salem, Jolarpettai, Vaniyambadi, Ambur, Katpadi, Tirupati, Renigunta, Koduru, Razampetta, Cuddapah, Yerraguntala, Thadipatri, Gooty, Dhone, Kurnool City, Gadwal, Mahbubnagar, and Jadcherla.
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