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S. Mohan



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I requested to extend upto Mettupalayam after some time [completion of

plotform work etc at MTP] enable full utilisation for Nilgiri, kovai, tirupur,

Erode, Karur, Tiruchi, Thanjavur, Pudukottai, Ariyalur, Perambalur,

Tiruvaur, Nagai districts of tn state and Karaikal region.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

S. Mohan wrote:
I requested to extend upto Mettupalayam after some time [completion of

plotform work etc at MTP] enable full utilisation for Nilgiri, kovai, tirupur,

Erode, Karur, Tiruchi, Thanjavur, Pudukottai, Ariyalur, Perambalur,

Tiruvaur, Nagai districts of tn state and Karaikal region.


If extended both Nilgiri and this Chemmozhi exp will trail one by oneon CBE-MTP sector. so it may not be possible for extending it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

kpchandru wrote:


The nomenclature opf this train has no bearing with any of the two places it connects. (Perhaps he does not want people to forget the confeence CBE hosted a few years back?) While we do appreciate theefforts of Mr TRB for getting this train for the Delta, the single handed manner in making the names for trains is not being welcomed.


The name Chemmozhi exp is due to and only because of Chemmozhi maanadu held at CBE. This naming will make CBE people to think of his political party.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Excellent bet! You should have been in IPL Betting! (Joke)


Very close indeed.



dilipnarayanan wrote:
This was my speculated timings posted after budget announcement

dilipnarayanan wrote:
I guess the following could be probable timings

MQ 21:10 NMJ 21:30/21:50 TJ 22:30 TPJ 23:20/23:40 KRR 1:00 ED 2:35 and CBE 4:40

CBE 23:30 ED 1:15 KRR 2:40 TPJ 4:15/4:35 TJ 5:25 NMJ 6:00/6:20 MQ 7:00


New train is little bit slower. MQ - CBE is taking 1 more hour than CBE - MQ. Dont know the reason.

Overall I feel its a very good timings given for this train. Now the need is connection train to MV/CUPJ and KIK
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:27 pm    Post subject: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Railway Action Committee at Coimbatore with the support of the Chamber of Commerce, Residents' Associations etc have been seeking an overnight connection to the Delta cities. The Commitee had gone to Delhi twice for this purpose as well as its other requests. The Honourable Members of Parliament from Coimbatore ( Mr P R Natarajan) and Pollachi (Mr Sukumar) have actively supported this effort.

I am glad that Honourable Members of Parliament, Sri T R Baalu and Sri Palanimanickam have also worked for this purpose.

Such efforts will be more successful if the Chambers of Commerce and citizens' associations in Thiruchy, Thanjavur, Needamangalam, Thiruvarur, Nagappattinam and so on make similar demands. But I find the bodies in these towns seek only more trains to Chennai!

Similarly the demand that Coimbatoreans made for a train to Rameswaram via Thiruchy via Pudukkottai, Karikkudi, Sivaganga and Manamadurai found no support from the Chambers of Commerce and citizens' bodies and representatives in these cities. They also seek only better connectivity to Chennai.

It surprises me why Coimbatore, the second largest city in Tamil Nadu and the connecting point to many pilgrim centers and tourist centers does not figure in their minds. More than that a large number of people from these cities and surrounding areas are employed in Coimbatore -Thiruppur-Erode belt.

Finally, it is left to Coimbatoreans to seek better connectivity with their brothers and sisters in rest of Tamil Nadu.

Do you hear of any effort in Chennai for better or greater connectivity to the rest of Tamil Nadu?

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ரயில்வே பட்ஜெட்டில், கோவை - மன்னார்குடி மற்றும் சென்னை எழும்பூர் - தஞ்சை இடையே, புதிய ரயில்கள் அறிவிக்கப்படுவதற்கு, டி.ஆர்.பாலு காரணமா, முன்னாள் அமைச்சர் பழனி மாணிக்கம் காரணமா என்பதில், டெல்டா மாவட்ட, தி.மு.க.,வினரிடையே மீண்டும் சலசலப்பு ஏற்பட்டுள்ளது.
திருவாரூர் - காரைக்குடி இடையே, மீட்டர்கேஜ் பாதை, அகல ரயில் பாதையாக மாற்றப்பட்டு வருகிறது. மன்னார்குடி - பட்டுக்கோட்டை இடையே, புதிய அகல ரயில் பாதைக்கு, இடம் கையகப்படுத்தும் பணி நடக்கிறது. தஞ்சை - பட்டுக்கோட்டை புதிய அகல ரயில் பாதை, ரயில்வே பட்ஜெட்டில் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

தஞ்சை உட்பட, டெல்டா மாவட்டங்களில் நடக்கும் ரயில்வே பணிகளுக்கும், புதிய ரயில்கள் இயக்கத்திற்கும், தாங்கள் தான் காரணம் என, பார்லிமென்ட் ரயில்வே நிலைக் குழு தலைவர், டி.ஆர்.பாலுவும், முன்னாள் மத்திய அமைச்சர் பழனி மாணிக்கமும், கட்சியினரிடமும், தொகுதி மக்களிடமும் சொல்லிக் கொள்ள ஆர்வம் காட்டுவதால், செல்வாக்கு யாருக்கு அதிகம் என்பதில், பனிப் போர் நடந்து வருகிறது.

டெல்டா மாவட்டங்களில் ரயில்வே திட்டங்கள், புதிய ரயில் போக்குவரத்து துவக்கத்தின் போது, தங்களில் யார் இதற்கு காரணம் என, டிஆர்.பாலுவுக்கும், பழனி மாணிக்கத்திற்கும் இடையே, ஏற்கனவே, அறிக்கை மோதல் ஏற்பட்டு, தி.மு.க., தலைவர் கருணாநிதி வரை, பஞ்சாயத்து போனது; பிறகு அமைதிப்படுத்தப்பட்டது.

இந்நிலையில், பட்ஜெட்டில் அறிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ள, கோவை - மன்னார்குடி இரவு நேர எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் கொண்டு வரவும், சென்னை எழும்பூர் - தஞ்சை இடையே, பட்ஜெட்டில் அறிவிக்கப்பட்ட ரயிலை, இரவு நேரத்தில் இயக்க, முழு முயற்சி எடுத்துள்ளதாகவும், ஆதரவாளர்களிடம், டி.ஆர்.பாலு பேசியதாக தகவல் வெளியானதால், பாலு மீது, பழனி மாணிக்கமும், ஆதரவாளர்களும், அதிருப்தியில் உள்ளதாக, தஞ்சை வட்டாரத்தில் பேசப்படுகிறது.

இந்த ரயிலுக்கான துவக்க விழாவில் , தஞ்சை உட்பட, டெல்டா மாவட்டங்களில் உள்ள, டி.ஆர்.பாலுவின் ஆதரவாளர்கள் மூலம், பிரமாண்ட விளம்பர போஸ்டர்கள் ஒட்டப்பட்டன. கோவையில் நடக்கும், கோவை - மன்னார்குடி இடையேயான, புதிய எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் ரயிலை, டி.ஆர்.பாலு, கொடியசைத்து துவக்கி வைக்கப் போவதாகவும் கூறப்படுகிறது.

இரவு நேர எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் ; சென்னை எழும்பூர் - தஞ்சை இடையே, புதிதாக இயக்கப்பட உள்ள ரயிலை, பகல் நேரத்தில் இயக்க, பழனி மாணிக்கம் விரும்பியுள்ளார். அதே நேரத்தில், தஞ்சை வழியே, பகல் நேரத்தில், திருச்செந்தூர் , திருச்சி சோழன் மற்றும், ராமேஸ்வரம் - வாரணாசி வாராந்திர எக்ஸ்பிரஸ் ரயில்கள் இயக்கப்படுகின்றன. எனவே, எழும்பூர் - தஞ்சை இடையே இயக்கப்பட உள்ள புதிய ரயில், இரவு நேரத்தில் இயக்கப்பட்டால் தான், பயணிகளுக்கு பெரும் உதவியாக இருக்கும் என, டி.ஆர்.பாலு, ரயில்வே அமைச்சகத்திடம் கோரிக்கை வைத்திருப்பதாகவும் கூறப்படுகிறது. இதனால், புதிய ரயிலுக்கான அறிவிப்பு, ரயில்வே பட்ஜெட்டில் இடம் பெற்றதற்கு, யார் காரணம் என்பதில், இருவருக்கும் இடையே, பனிப் போர் நடந்து வருகிறது.

ரயில்வே அதிகாரிகள் உஷார் ; திருவாரூர் - காரைக்குடி மீட்டர் கேஜ் பாதை, புதிய அகல ரயில் பாதையாக மாற்றியமைப்பதில், தாமதம் ஏற்பட்ட போது, திருவாரூர் - பட்டுக்கோட்டை பகுதிக்கு, டி.ஆர்.பாலு முக்கியத்துவம் காட்டியதாகவும், பட்டுக்கோட்டை - பேராவூரணி - காரைக்குடி பகுதியில் தான், முதலில் ரயில் பாதை பணி துவங்கப்பட வேண்டும் என்பதில், பழனிமாணிக்கம் மிகவும் ஆர்வம் காட்டியதாகவும் கூறப்பட்டது. இவர்கள் மோதலில், நாம் சிக்கிவிடக் கூடாது என, நினைத்த, ரயில்வே திட்ட அதிகாரிகள், இருவரையும் திருப்திபடுத்துவது போல, திருவாரூர் - திருத்துறைபூண்டி இடையேயும், காரைக்குடி - அறந்தாங்கி இடையேயும், மீட்டர் கேஜ் பாதையை, அகல ரயில் பாதையாக மாற்றும் பணிகளை தற்போது துவக்கி, நடத்தி வருகின்றனர்.- நமது நிருபர் -
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Extension to Udumalpet or Palani after gauge conversion will result in higher occupancy.

S. Mohan wrote:
I requested to extend upto Mettupalayam after some time [completion of

plotform work etc at MTP] enable full utilisation for Nilgiri, kovai, tirupur,

Erode, Karur, Tiruchi, Thanjavur, Pudukottai, Ariyalur, Perambalur,

Tiruvaur, Nagai districts of tn state and Karaikal region.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Coimbatore lacks good connection to Cuddalore, and Chidambaram. Coaches in this train to these locations will help.


chidambaram wrote:
AnandKumaR wrote:
TJ-VM slip coach will solve the maintenance problem also. And this will be a huge hit. It will cover near 7 towns (KMU,MV,SRK,CDM,CUPJ,PRT,VM). PDY/Neyveli passengers are also possible to tak this from TDPR.

Currently, I hope 19.35 MV-TJ DEMU will give the connection to CBE in TJ. Return is a big Question Mark.


Anand Kumar,

How about taking Pallavan till VRI and take a bus to CDM/CUPJ or taking Pallavan till VM and take a bus/MS-PDY Passenger to PDY?

Will Passengers to CDM/CUPJ/PDY Prefer it or Direct Omni Bus?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Balasundaram wrote:
Extension to Udumalpet or Palani after gauge conversion will result in higher occupancy.

S. Mohan wrote:
I requested to extend upto Mettupalayam after some time [completion of

plotform work etc at MTP] enable full utilisation for Nilgiri, kovai, tirupur,

Erode, Karur, Tiruchi, Thanjavur, Pudukottai, Ariyalur, Perambalur,

Tiruvaur, Nagai districts of tn state and Karaikal region.


FYI, TPJ-KRR-ED-TUP-CBE-PTJ-POY-PLNI will be a circuitous route for this train. At the maximum extension to POY could be reasonable. Not to PLNI.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I am aware of that it is circuitous for those from Trichy and east.

It is for those in Erode and Tiruppur who have no connection to Palani.



cheran wrote:
Balasundaram wrote:
Extension to Udumalpet or Palani after gauge conversion will result in higher occupancy.

S. Mohan wrote:
I requested to extend upto Mettupalayam after some time [completion of

plotform work etc at MTP] enable full utilisation for Nilgiri, kovai, tirupur,

Erode, Karur, Tiruchi, Thanjavur, Pudukottai, Ariyalur, Perambalur,

Tiruvaur, Nagai districts of tn state and Karaikal region.


FYI, TPJ-KRR-ED-TUP-CBE-PTJ-POY-PLNI will be a circuitous route for this train. At the maximum extension to POY could be reasonable. Not to PLNI.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Balasundaram wrote:
I am aware of that it is circuitous for those from Trichy and east.

It is for those in Erode and Tiruppur who have no connection to Palani.





For which, separate passenger train/s will be introduced.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Balasundaram wrote:
Extension to Udumalpet or Palani after gauge conversion will result in higher occupancy.

This train with its current route itself run with good patronage from TJ, TPJ to CBE. It has good connectivity from KIK @ TJ, from Chettinad @ TPJ.

if this train given connectivity from MV side @ TJ in both the directions, surely it will be hit in its present form.

There is not much people travelling to Pollachi, Udumalaipet from Central Districts.
worst case Passenger train between Palghat to TPJ via DG, PLNI,POY should suffice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Hi Balasundaram,

Interesting observations from you.

Balasundaram wrote:
But I find the bodies in these towns seek only more trains to Chennai!

Similarly the demand that Coimbatoreans made for a train to Rameswaram via Thiruchy via Pudukkottai, Karikkudi, Sivaganga and Manamadurai found no support from the Chambers of Commerce and citizens' bodies and representatives in these cities. They also seek only better connectivity to Chennai.


It implies the dependency of these cities/towns on Chennai compared to other places including CBE. Their demand to Chennai itself is grossly under-served - especially TPJ/TJ/KMU.

But I am sure, after Chennai they will ask for SBC, CBE and South TN.

Balasundaram wrote:

It surprises me why Coimbatore, the second largest city in Tamil Nadu and the connecting point to many pilgrim centers and tourist centers does not figure in their minds. More than that a large number of people from these cities and surrounding areas are employed in Coimbatore -Thiruppur-Erode belt.

Finally, it is left to Coimbatoreans to seek better connectivity with their brothers and sisters in rest of Tamil Nadu.

Do you hear of any effort in Chennai for better or greater connectivity to the rest of Tamil Nadu?



Though CBE's active representation deserves major praise, we cant compare Chennai and Coimbatore. Maybe Chennai is too large a city to have such focused passenger groups for representing railway demands.

Coming back to CBE-MQ, welcome the early intro of this train thanks to TRB. I dont mind the name Semmozhi Express for the sake of WCTC 2010 and connecting TJ/Tamil University! I will be more interested to see the rake sharing for this train - assuming CBE as base.

Cheers,
Raj
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: Coimbatore - Mannargudi Express Semmozhi Express If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

KSRaj wrote:
I will be more interested to see the rake sharing for this train - assuming CBE as base.

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Raj

it is also interesting to see Kamban, Semmozhi, new TJ-Ms express,Mannai all will be idling for more than 12 hrs in these cities.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I think the change would be that this new express might have RSA with mannai and chendur can have with new tj express/even boatmail is free of rsa, thus maintanence at rmm is possible to tj ont
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

deepu wrote:
I think the change would be that this new express might have RSA with mannai and chendur can have with new tj express/even boatmail is free of rsa, thus maintanence at rmm is possible to tj ont

what all are the stations have primary/secondary maintenance?
TPJ, TEN, MDU, RMM,VM, SA, ED, CBE?
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