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crazyguru94



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:56 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Arul wrote:
Hope atleast we get this bone.. Ithu vantha kooda romba santhosam thaan. :cheers:

Double decker makes way for Tejas

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Mumbai: The Tejas Express will replace the double-decker train, which was re-launched in 2015 with much pomp and show by Union railway minister Suresh Prabhu. The Tejas Express will be equipped with LCD touch screens, recliner seats, USB charging ports and automatic door.

The railways officials feel that the double-decker train failed because of its departure time of 5 am, and Tejas may not succeed as it has been given the same slot. The train will set off on its maiden journey from Mumbai to Goa (Karmali) on Monday.

The advantage that the train seems to have is that unlike the double-decker, which departed from Lokmanya Tilak Terminus (LTT), the Tejas Express has been scheduled to depart from Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station (CST). Although, the decision about its departure from the CST is yet to finalised. Officials said that only time would tell if the train would become a success or not.

The double-decker, which has chair cars, might be sent to Southern Railways (SR), where it is likely to run to from Chennai. Suresh Prabhu had flagged-off the double-decker via video conferencing on December 6, 2015.

An official from Central Railways (CR) said, “The railways has been struggling with the AC-double decker trains. Many people said that they would prefer travelling at night journey.” The 10-AC chair, which was running from Madgoan to LTT was recalled for eight months in 2015 due to 20 percent occupancy.

“The 10-AC chair train would depart from LTT at 5:33 am and would reach Madgaon at 5:30 pm on the same the day, which is why added the passengers won’t increase. People usually don’t like to spend the entire day travelling when the same 12 hours can be spent sleeping,” an official said.

Supriya Marathe, who often travel to her native place Kankavli said, “Usually tickets are available, but I hate travelling during odd hours. I might travel in Tejas Express just to experience it.” According to sources in the railways, the double-decker train had got only 50 percent booking even during this summer season.


http://www.asianage.com/metros/mumbai/210517/double-decker-makes-way-for-tejas.html

DD replace panna costly Tejas, fare for Tejas on that route is 1200 rupees which will take 8hrs 30min and other hand BOM-GOI 1.3hrs flight just cost 1500 rupees even for tomorrow.

Hope SR put this DD on much needed MS-MDU sector which would be definitely hit from day one.. or not sure if this what UDAY express on CBE-SBC-CBE route.


Better remodel this double - decker as a sleeper/seater and put to use as UDAY.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:24 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

DD, IC, Shatabdi, JS..... whatever we like to dream of, will remain as dream forever. Keep up the great work SR in being generous to bus owners and airliners. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

My Dream schedule is

Reverse Vaigai can be achieved using the existing Pandian/Rockport exp racks in addition to getting an intercity between MDU & CBE.These things are very much possible after the TPJ - DG & TPJ - TJ doubling

1. MDU => MS Night train 500 kms
2. MS => MDU proposed daytime 6.30 AM 500 kms
3. MDU => MS proposed daytime 2.00 PM 500 kms
4. MS => TPJ daytime train(via MV) 400 kms should start around 6.30 AM so that it reaches TPJ before 1.30PM to have the PM there
5. TPJ => MS Rockport night train 337 kms
6. MS => MDU night train 500 kms
7. MDU => CBE/MTP daytime 7.30AM 228 kms + 36 kms for MTP
8. CBE/MTP => MDU daytime 1.00PM 228 kms + 36 kms for MTP

Overall 3270 kms.

Also the Cheran racks can be utilized to run an intercity between CBE - MDU/RMM (or SCT/TN/TEN), a 7 + 7 hour run. In this case PM needs to happen in Chennai or Cheran can be extended to Tambaram with stops at Perambalur, MS, Mambalam so that PM can be at TBM.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Requirement of Reverse Vaigai from MS - MDU heats up...

Kerala getting a new Shatabdi rake and Any indication that Kozhikode JS rake would be used for MS - MDU reverse Vaigai service ????

My dream timings for this JanShatabdi:
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MS MDU JanShatabdi
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MS: 0630
TBM: 0658 0700
VM: 0843 0845
TPJ: 1110 1115
DG: 1233 1235
MDU: 1400 (1340+endslack)
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MDU MS Janshatabdi
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MDU: 1500
DG: 1555
TPJ: 1710 1715
VM: 1943 1945
TBM: 2135
MS: 2230 (2210+endslack)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Reverse Vaigai is an urgent need from MS to MDU in the morning.. However it doesn't look like the JS rake would be used here..

It seems highly unlikely that Jan Shatabdi will be rerouted somewhere else when there is already a huge Patronage on the TVC-ALLP-ERS-TCR sector..

Shatabdi Express(TVC-CAN) if introduced will only remain as a backup and a faster alternative to the JS Express but it's not going to be the reasonable train that the masses need.

Similar to the Kovai and CBE Shatabdi/Brindavan and double decker Express, the Shatabdi and Jan Shatabdi will run concurrently with different routes via KTYM and ALLP respectively.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:19 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

MS-MDU DD requires more civil works before start it seems b/w MS-TBM...GDY - FOP is very low it seems not checked with other stations...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Chennai Egmore-Madurai Intercity Express departing Chennai in the morning and reaching Madurai in the afternoon is actually much required.
It shall depart Chennai Egmore at 06:00hrs and reach Madurai by 13:30hrs (including buffer)
In the return direction, Madurai-Chennai Egmore Intercity Express shall depart Madurai at 14:30hrs and reach Chennai Egmore at 22:00hrs (including buffer).
Since now MS-MDU is completely an FEDL, SR can introduce and begin to operate this train at the earliest possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:43 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

pravkumar wrote:
Chennai Egmore-Madurai Intercity Express departing Chennai in the morning and reaching Madurai in the afternoon is actually much required.
It shall depart Chennai Egmore at 06:00hrs and reach Madurai by 13:30hrs (including buffer)
In the return direction, Madurai-Chennai Egmore Intercity Express shall depart Madurai at 14:30hrs and reach Chennai Egmore at 22:00hrs (including buffer).
Since now MS-MDU is completely an FEDL, SR can introduce and begin to operate this train at the earliest possible.


Long pending demand - could have been done 2015 itself when MS-VM doubling was completed. Hope SR considers *atleast* now after completion of MS-MDU FEDL.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:58 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

Raj
I don't think the railways are interested in introducing more trains in their net work any more. More trains means more operating losses. As you are aware, the recovery of costs on every ticket sold is just 47% and the balance 53% is subsidized. Besides, for the work force in SR any new trains means more work headache and tension. Why invite all these extra work by introducing new trains ? This seem to be the line of thinking.
So, for now, let us be happy that we hot a FEDL upto MDU which will probably will ensure better punctuality of the running trains and not aspire for any new trains .
May be, I have poured cold water in your dreams too soon.
But,miracles can still happen and they do in SR !!. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:50 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I think SR might consider introducing DD or Shatabdi type express between MS-MDU-MS since MDU, TPJ will easily fill AC chair car coaches.

MS: 6.00 => TPJ: 10.20/10.25 => MDU: 13.00

MDU: 15.00 => TPJ: 16.55/17.00 => MS: 22.00

Stoppage @ TPJ, VM (for PDY), TBM

First Class AC - 1, Chaircar AC - 7, EOG - 2

Total 10 coaches

@ MS Platform-1 can accommodate nearly 12-13 coach
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:59 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

gsrini wrote:
Raj
I don't think the railways are interested in introducing more trains in their net work any more. More trains means more operating losses. As you are aware, the recovery of costs on every ticket sold is just 47% and the balance 53% is subsidized. Besides, for the work force in SR any new trains means more work headache and tension. Why invite all these extra work by introducing new trains ? This seem to be the line of thinking.
So, for now, let us be happy that we hot a FEDL upto MDU which will probably will ensure better punctuality of the running trains and not aspire for any new trains .
May be, I have poured cold water in your dreams too soon.
But,miracles can still happen and they do in SR !!. Very Happy Very Happy
Srini


Srini,

I see the sarcasm and frustration reflecting in your post - much agreed.

We know SR very well and not much dreams - but this is quite basic. In fact, restoration of MG service only. Let us hope for some miracles Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

I do not think Shathabdhi trains to MDU section will be successful, seeing the running of the existing AC Duranto.

In this connection, I would like topoint out that SC Rly , with its vast potential in the BZA-VSKP sector, or HYB-BZA sectior has not gone for a sathabdhi train. On the contrary they have made complete use of the GR, with a daily run
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:07 am    Post subject: If a post contains some illegal issues you may abuse on it - just click Abuse and fill the form Reply with quote

kpchandru wrote:
I do not think Shathabdhi trains to MDU section will be successful, seeing the running of the existing AC Duranto.

In this connection, I would like topoint out that SC Rly , with its vast potential in the BZA-VSKP sector, or HYB-BZA sectior has not gone for a sathabdhi train. On the contrary they have made complete use of the GR, with a daily run


KPC Sir,
If MDU-MS is not fit for Shatabdi, it could be for different reasons. But, citing Duronto is not appropriate when it runs on a longer route (slightly changed now), more fares for no additional amenities, overnight AC journey when there are other options etc.
I can say that Madurai has about a dozen or more flights to Chennai, and that too half of them are about 150+-180 seats. Why can't a Shatabdi work out? If at all it happens, it will be vai TPJ which will add to the patronage as well.
Anyways, MDU doesn't even have a reverse IC as Vaigai's counterpart. So, I don't think a Shatabdi will come anyways. Sad
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