IR Southern Zone - Discussion

THILLAI · Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 977

At least this could have been routed via NGT-TPJ-VRI-SA-KJM-UBL-VASCO.

ananthamurali · Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 203 Location: Bangalore

I agree, the slot at TPJ and KJM (towards Vasco) seems to be close to erstwhile SBC-TPJ daily train. They could have routed via VRI-SA which would reduce number of loco reversal to 3
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kaviramki · Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject:

Taken from SWR website.
3) T. No. 17315/17316 Vasco – Velankanni – Vasco weekly Express.
Abstract timings:
Train No.17315*
VSG - VLNK Express Station Train No.17316*
VLNK – VSG Express
Mon (D) 09.50 Vasco-da-gama Wed (A) 19.40
10.20/10.25 Madgoan 18.15/18.20
15.30/15.40 Hubli 12.40/13.00
22.13/22.15 Tumkur 05.38/05.40
00.00/00.10 Yesvantpur 04.30/04.40
03.30(T) Jolarpettai A 01.45(T)
09.25/09.40 Tiruchirapalli Jn. 18.35/18.55
Tue (A)13.00 Velankanni. Tue (D) 13.45
*Date of introduction will be advised later.
Composition : 1 ACCW+1ACCN+9GSCN+5GS+2SLR=18 Coaches
Rake Requirement : Nil (Lie- over rake of 12781/ 12782 & 17309/17310 Express
integrated.)
Primary Maintenance : Vasco RBPC
Stoppages : SVM, MAO, QLM, CLR, LD, LWR, DWR, UBL, HVR,
HRR,
DVG,RRB,ASK, TK,YPR,KJM,BWT,SA,ED,TPJ & NGT.

This timing & stoppages seem to be slightly different from what is stated in Timetable and here.

Surprising part is Thiruvarur does not have stoppage.

vsp27759 · Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject:

kaviramki · Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject:

kpchandru · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:58 pm Post subject:

Time taken for the TPJ-VLKN stretch varies very much for the up and down journeys. Towards Veilankanni, it is only 3hrs 20mts, while for the return it takes nearly 5 hours !! And the funny part olf it is, that the lesser time includes buffer too!!

vsp27759 · Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject:

kaviramki · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:07 am Post subject:

Dear KPC, VSP sirs,
I feel return timing from Velankanni to TPJ is formed to avoid overtaking in NGT-TPJ sector. There is a passenger leaving 15.20 at NGT and reach TPJ at 19.20. To avoid over taking this express train is made to precede the passenger and since 16.45 slot is used by 14260 BSB-RMM Exp on Tuesday at TJ this train will be following it and reach TPJ by 18.20.

In effect this train runs in passenger timings in NGT-TPJ sector with having only one stop in between.

Thanks and Regards,
Ramki

kaviramki · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject:

Will this be operational for Velankanni Festival this year?

Hope is more since SWR stated that there is no new rake requirement for operating this train.....

kaviramki · Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject:

Response from SR for suggested change in time of this train.
G.50/PG/WC/2011-2012/190

Dear Sir,
This has reference to your email. In this connection, the remarks received from the Operating Branch of this Railway are appended below for your kind information.

"The timings of Train Nos.17315/17316 Vasco - Velankanni Express has been worked out taking into consideration, the time available for maintenance, availability of path on single line and double line sections of Southern Railway and South Western Railway and availability of platform. Hence, it is not feasible, to revise the timings as suggested. This Railway has approached Railway Board for provision of stoppage for Train Nos.17315/17316 Vasco - Velankanni Weekly Express at Thiruvarur. Railway Board’s advice is awaited."

Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
B.NAGESWARA RAO,
Joint Director, Public Grievances,
General Manager's Office, Southern Railway,
Park Town, Chennai - 600 003.
----- Original Message -----
From: JD(PG)/SRly/MAS
To: ramkrishnanm@yahoo.com
Cc: CPTM
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:38 AM
Subject: Fw: 17315/17316 - Vasco Velankanni Weekly Express

G.50/PG/WC/2011-2012/190

Dear Sir,

Receipt of your e-mail is hereby acknowledged.
Your suggestions have been taken note of and the concerned authorities advised to examine feasibility.

Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
B.NAGESWARA RAO,
Joint Director, Public Grievances,
General Manager's Office, Southern Railway,
Park Town, Chennai - 600 003.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ramakrishnan Mahalingam
To: ddpg@sr.railnet.gov.in ; dgm@swr.railnet.gov.in ; sdgm@swr.railnet.gov.in ; dyccm@swr.railnet.gov.in ; cptm@sr.railnet.gov.in
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:56 AM
Subject: 17315/17316 - Vasco Velankanni Weekly Express

Hi Sirs,

Good morning. With respect to the announced Vasco - Velankanni express and subject to its timings mentioned in the recent SZTT, I would like to bring to your attention certain conveniences in timing the passengers of this train are expecting. Request you to kindly check the feasibility and implement it.

The train is announced to depart from Vasco at 09.50 reach Yeswantpur at Midnight, depart at 00.10, reach KJM 01.00, reach TPJ 09.15 and Velankanni by 13.00.

While the idea seems to be that provide a convenient day time connection between Vasco and Bangalore and overnight connection between Bangalore and Velankanni seems to have faltered with the timings.

If the departure time is advanced by about 2 hours in Goa it will provide a convenient day time connection between Goa and Bangalore and overnight connection from Bangalore to Velankanni and one day connection between Goa - Velankanni.

The ideal would be like this
Vasco 08.10
UBL 13.15
YPR 22.05 (Following Chalukya Express) Dep 22.15 (Loco Change)
KJM 22.45 (Erstwhile 0669 SBC - TPJ Special Daily Express slot which is free now - Following Island Express all the way till Erode)
SA 02.40
ED 03.40 04.00 (from now 16866 Lead ERS - NCR Express ) (Loco Change)
TPJ 07.10 07.25 (Loco Change)
TJ 08.25
TVR 09.20
NGT 09.45 (Loco Change) 10.00
VLKN 11.00

If the path is constrained through ED route, it could also be thought about routing via Srirangam, VRI, SA in the same slot of erstwhile SBC - TPJ Express. This will avoid one Loco Reversal too.

In the Return Direction, the train can be made to depart little late from Velankanni as lot of buffer time is given before reaching Erode and late departure will make it convenient for people to patronise the train.

Velankanni - 15.00
NGT - 15.30 15.50 (Loco Change)
TVR - 16.20
TJ - 17.30 (overtake 56853 passenger on the way)
TPJ - 18.35 18.55 (Loco Change. This slot is same as that of Erstwhile TPJ-SBC Express)
From TPJ onwards it can follow the existing timings of the announced express. Normally most of the express trains take less than 3 hours time between TPJ and ED while this train has almost 4 hours. If this can be speeded up even it can depart late from Velankanni further.
ED 22.45
KJM 03.30
YPR 04.30 04.40
Vasco 19.40

These timings will make passengers more convenient to patronize the train. Since the timings between KJM and TPJ are more closer to the slot of erstwhile SBC-TPJ-SBC train and this slot is still free, request you to use this slot which will be convenient to people of Bangalore and Tamilnadu.

Also, request you to enable stop at Thiruvarur (TVR) which is a district head quarters and a big town. All the trains passing through TJ-NGT stop at this place and this train also need to be provided a stop at this place. This place is of historical importance with lot of ancient chola temples around with lot of pilgrimage.
Hope suitable action is taken in this regard and believe the train gets introduced soon.

Thanks and Regards,
Ramakrishnan.

Harish · Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 477

MARGAO: PWD minister Churchill Alemao claimed on Friday that the Vasco-Vailankanni direct train will commence soon.

"I just received a call from the private secretary to the Union minister for railways, Dinesh Trivedi, that the direct train would start between August 15-20. Trivedi will come to Goa to inaugurate the new train service," Alemao told TOI.

Claiming credit for the train, Alemao said that the direct train to Vailankanni would ease the sufferings of thousands of Goans who take a pilgrimage to the holy place every year.

"Since 1990, I have been pursuing with the railway authorities the demand for a direct train to Vailankanni. The ex-railway minister Mamata Banerjee was kind enough to consider the demand and a weekly train from Vasco to Vailankanni was proposed in the last budget," Alemao said.

The schedule of the train and its frequency is yet to be made known.
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suganthan_varadarajan · Joined: 13 Apr 2010 Posts: 591 Location: Indore / Chennai

Should be a daily train with over night journey on both directions for TPJ-SBC & SBC-TPJ.

Should cover Vasco – Velankanni vice versa in 23 - 24 hours

SR should run 2-3 exp between TPJ and NCR so that trains from NCR/VLK can have there primary maintanance at TPJ instead of MS.
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Indore

dilipnarayanan · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject:

RED HOT NEWS Very Happy

The train will start running from 26 August (Inaugural special)

Regular services to commence from August 30

Good that its starting at the festival time

INTRODUCTION OF VASCO-DA-GAMA – VELANKANNI EXPRESS *
As announced by the Hon’ble Minister for Railways in the Railway Budget2011-12, new weekly train services will be introduced between Vasco-da-gama - Velankanni w.e.f. 26.8.2011 from Vasco-da-gama and 27.8.2011 from Velankanni.

Inaugural specials

The inaugural special of Vasco-da-gama – Velankanni Express (T.No.06901) will leave Vasco-da-gama at 19.00 hrs. on 26.8.2011 and arrive Velankanni at 22.30 hrs. the next day.The inaugural special of Velankanni – Vasco-da-gama Express (T.No.06902) will leave Velankanni at 23.45 hrs. on 27.8.2011 and arrive Vasco-da-gama at 05.00 hrs. on 29.8.2011.The composition of the trains will be 1 AC 2-tier, 1 AC 3-tier, 9 Sleeper Class, 5 General Second Class and 2 luggage-cum-brake van coaches.The trains will stop at Madgaon, Kulem, Castle Rock, Londa, Dharwad, Hubli, Haveri, Davengere, Arsikere, Tumkur, Yesvantpur, Krishnarajapuram, Bangarapet, Salem, Erode, Karur, Tiruchchirappalli, Thanjavur and Nagapattinam.Advance reservation for the inaugural specials will commence on 25.8.2011.

Regular train services will commence from Vasco-da-gama on 29.8.2011 and from Velankanni on 30.8.2011.

Vasco-da-gama – Velankanni – Vasco-da-gama Weekly Expresses T.No.17315 Vasco-da-gama – Velankanni Express will leave Vasco-da-gama at 09.00 hrs. on Mondays and arrive Velankanni at 12.10 hrs. the next day.T.No.17316 Velankanni – Vasco-da-gama Express will leave Velankanni at 14.10 hrs. on Tuesdays and arrive Vasco-da-gama at 19.40 hrs. the next day.The composition of the trains will be 1 AC 2-tier, 1 AC 3-tier, 9 Sleeper Class, 5 General Second Class and 2 luggage-cum-brake van coaches.The trains will stop at Madgaon, Kulem, Castle Rock, Londa, Dharwad, Hubli, Haveri, Davengere, Birur, Arsikere, Tumkur, Yesvantpur, Krishnarajapuram, Bangarapet, Salem, Erode, Karur, Tiruchchirappalli, Thanjavur and Nagapattinam.Advance reservation for the above trains will commence on 26.8.2011.

http://www.sr.indianrailways.gov.in/view_detail.jsp?lang=0&id=0,4,268&dcd=387&did=13141865826419B789AE0B6EF250CAC4D9D044C31355C.web103

kaviramki · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject:

Great news on Vasco - Velankanni Express. It is a welcome move that they attempted little tweaking with respect to regular train timings as against what is present in TT. May be next TT some more tweaking can be done to make it lot more convenient for travel between Velankanni and YPR.

The below was the response received few days back when sent a mail to SR/SWR on Vasco-VLKN spl for Velankanni festival. Good that it happened soon and regular service also getting started.

From: JDPG/SRly/MAS <ddpg>
Subject: Fw: Velankanni Festival Specials
To: cptm@sr.railnet.gov.in
Cc: ramkrishnanm@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 August, 2011, 18:22

G.50/PG/WC/2011-2012/269

Appended message is being forwarded for necessary action at your end.

The grievances brought out by the party may kindly be looked into and reply sent the party endorsing a copy to this office by e-mail.

B.NAGESWARA RAO

JD/PG/SRly/MAS

----- Original Message -----
From: Ramakrishnan Mahalingam
To: ddpg@sr.railnet.gov.in ; dgm@swr.railnet.gov.in ; sdgm@swr.railnet.gov.in ; dyccm@swr.railnet.gov.in ; cptm@sr.railnet.gov.in ; cpro@swr.railnet.gov.in
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:48 PM
Subject: Velankanni Festival Specials

Dear Sirs,

Good evening. The famous mother mary Velankanni festival is round the corner in 2 weeks from now at Velankanni near Nagapattinam in Tamilnadu. While SCR has announced some special trains from Mumbai for the Velankanni festival, the much expected VASCO - Velankanni special is not yet announced. Vasco - Velankanni was operated in previous years and it was successful and this has been announced as a weekly train(17315/16) in the budget last year. We are hopeful either the regular train starts operation before the festival or atleast the special train is operated for the festival while logistics being arranged for the regular train.

Also, some time back, a special train was operated between Trichy and Bangalore using the lie over rakes of TPJ-HWH Express. Though this had been very successful from TPJ - SBC as night express, it is not successful as SBC-TPJ as it was operated as Day time train with Sleeper coaches. Request you to operate this special during velankanni festival as Trichy is the nearest city to Velankanni and there will be special buses operated from Trichy which could facilitate people to travel between Bangalore and Velankanni. Also operate the return train from SBC as a night train to help commuters.

Hope these requests are considered and fulfilled.

Thansk and Regards,
Ramakrishnan